Advan Racing GT
Part No: ARRacingGT
Size: 18x8.5J
Face: C2
Hole: 5
Bore:
PCD: 114.3
Offset: 38
Finish: Semi Gloss Black (SGB)
| Size | Face | Hole/PCD | Offset | Hub Bore | Colour | Swatch | Caps | Price | Options |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15x5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x5.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x6J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x6.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 40 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 42 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 30 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x8J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x5.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x5.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 38 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x6.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x6.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 37 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 42 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 31 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 44 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x8J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 42 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 48 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 100 | 45 | 57.1/63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 40 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 38 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 50 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 31 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x9J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x9J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 48 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8J | S-TD | 5 x 100 | 47 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 37 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 51 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 37 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 31 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 25 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 51 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9J | GTR | 5 x 120 | 53 | 72.5/73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 12 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 63 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | GTR | 5 x 120 | 45 | 72.5/73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x10J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x10.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 15 | 73 | Racing Hyper Black (HBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
From £319.00 | Check Fitment View Pricing Options | |
| 15x5.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x6.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 40 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 30 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x8J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x5.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x6.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 42 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 44 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x8J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
From £387.00 | Check Fitment View Pricing Options | |
| 17x7J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 42 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 48 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 100 | 45 | 57.1/63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 40 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 48 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8J | S-TD | 5 x 100 | 47 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 37 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 63 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | GTR | 5 x 120 | 45 | 72.5/73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x10.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 15 | 73 | Racing Indigo Blue (IBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x5.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x6J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x6.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 40 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 42 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 30 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 15x8J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x5.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x5.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 38 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x6.5J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x6.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 37 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 42 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 31 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 44 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x7J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 16x8J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7J | S-TD | 4 x 100 | 42 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 48 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 100 | 45 | 57.1/63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 40 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x7.5J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 38 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x8J | GTR | 4 x 100 | 35 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x9J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 17x9J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x7.5J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 48 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8J | S-TD | 5 x 100 | 47 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | S-TD | 5 x 114.3 | 51 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 37 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 31 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x8.5J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 45 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9J | GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9J | GTR | 5 x 100 | 51 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 12 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 45 | 63 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x9.5J | GTR | 5 x 120 | 45 | 72.5/73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x10J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 35 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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| 18x10.5J | S-GTR | 5 x 114.3 | 15 | 73 | Gloss Black Combi (GBC) | ![]() |
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Part No: ARRacingGT
Size: 18x8.5J
Face: C2
Hole: 5
Bore:
PCD: 114.3
Offset: 38
Finish: Semi Gloss Black (SGB)
Part No: AR4RG-4
Size: 17x8J
Face: S-TD
Hole: 5
Bore: 73/73
PCD: 114.3
Offset: 45
Finish: Semi Gloss Black (SGB)
Part No: ARRGD2D2
Size: 15x5J
Face: S-TD
Hole: 4
Bore: 63/63
PCD: 100
Offset: 38
Finish: Machining and Black Gun Metallic (MBG)
Part No: ARRacingGT
Size: 18x9.5J
Face: C5
Hole: 5
Bore:
PCD: 114.3
Offset: 12
Finish: Machining and Racing Metal Black (MMB)
Part No: AR4TC-4
Size: 16x7J
Face: GTR
Hole: 5
Bore: 73
PCD: 114.3
Offset: 35
Finish: Racing Gun Metallic and Ring (GMR)
Part No: ARRacingGT
Size: 18x9J
Face: C2
Hole: 5
Bore:
PCD: 120
Offset: 53
Finish: Machining and Racing Metal Black (MMB)
Unfortunately I wasn't aware of BHP Imports when I purchased my current car however after a few recent conversations with Andy I took advantage of the offer to have a comprehensive Japanese report produced. The report included history on all of the promised details along with photo's of the car going through the auction house, this will no doubt be an invaluable addition to the cars history and I'll have no hesitation whatsoever in using Andy and his team for my next JDM vehicle purchase, an absolute pleasure to deal with.
Can't recommend these guys highly enough. They helped me locate my dream car at an affordable price in the auction and were there to answer all of my stupid questions throughout the entire process. All the paperwork was taken care of on my behalf so it was just a matter of being patient and waiting for my car to arrive. Now it is here I am over the moon and looking forward to bumping into Andy on the streets of North Shields.
Couldn't recommend highly enough. super easy process. would think importing a car would be difficult but it really isn't. just be patient as it's coming a hell of a long way. absolutely love my new car, wouldn't hesitate to use again.
I used bhp imports after a few friends recommended them. After the first coversation it was clear this was the company to use andy/ baz knowledge of jdm cars is unreal. I was after something for a dailly so we decided the accord cl7 euro r would be the best choice. After a few weeks i had already won my car and was informed at every step of the way. Had the car a few weeks and im not dissapointed. I would recommend any other company for importing a car. They were a pleasure to deal with start to finish.
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